Naruto 500: Ipotesi e Discussione Capitolo

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  • #800302
    Kyubi_95
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    Naruto già a 4 code diventa succube del Kyuubi. Contro Pain Naruto si inca**a talmente tanto da arrivare prima a 6 poi a 8 code ma era il Kyuubi che aveva il sopravvento e Naruto di certo non lo controllava.

    scusa stava scritto su wikipedia e io pensavo che fosse vero
    dalla bibbia

    e Dio creò wikipedia per ingannare l’uomo e fargli scrivere versi mendaci sul forum di komixjam

    #800344
    Biolca
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    si chiama proprio 4 sigilli.
    guarda capitolo 496 pagina 7.. bee gli chiede con che sigillo la volpe è intrappolata in lui e lui risponde proprio “con i 4 sigilli”

    Le traduzioni più comuni sono Sigillo Quadrangolare, Sigillo dei 4 Elementi o Sigillo Pentastico. I 4 sigilli non si erano mai letti prima d’ora, penso sia stata una svista della traduzione.

    #800345
    Kirisuto
    Moderatore

    Le traduzioni più comuni sono Sigillo Quadrangolare, Sigillo dei 4 Elementi o Sigillo Pentastico. I 4 sigilli non si erano mai letti prima d’ora, penso sia stata una svista della traduzione.

    Il sigillo pentastico (penta –> 5) è quello applicato da orochimaru nella foresta della morte e poi sciolto da Jiraya. 😀
    Occhio alla confusione 😉

    #800348
    Biolca
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    Il sigillo pentastico (penta –> 5) è quello applicato da orochimaru nella foresta della morte e poi sciolto da Jiraya. 😀
    Occhio alla confusione 😉

    :icon_eek: Azz colpa dell’ora, oggi sono distrutto :dho: :bowdown:

    #800351
    pagliaccio
    Membro

    Sigillo quadrangolare non significa 4 sigilli, ma probabilmente è un sigillo che utilizza 4 elmenti..naruto ha un sigillo ottagonale, ovvero 2 sigilli quadrangolari sovrapposti, che come hai giustamente scritto trattengono al massimo la volonta del demone.
    Il sigillo cambia poichè, sempre probabilmente, la chiave che naruto ha sula mano si “fonde” col sigillo stesso, permettendo dunque, in qualche modo, di far passare il chakra dal sigillo ottagonale, senza rimanere aperto (come una zanzariera fa passare l’aria ma non gli insetti), dunque l’accenno della volpe ai sei regni è riferito a qualcos’altro di cui non ci è ancora dato a sapere.
    La teoria dell’occhio sigillato in Naruto sembra anche a me campata per aria, assurda ed insulsa, soprattutto senza il minimo indizio e fondamento..

    piano, credo di essere stato frainteso, secondo me l’occhio che controllava la volpe è stato sigillato, o perlomeno l'”anima”, nel corpo di naruto quando il quarto ha sigillato la volpe col sigillo del diavolo.
    sarutobi ha usato quel sigillo per rendere inutili le braccia di orocimaru tagliando all’anima di orocimari le braccia.
    quindi è possibile che volente o nolente il quarto habbia fatto lo stesso con madara, però all’occhio. non penso che in naruto ci sia un occhio in carne ed ossa, ma almeno il suo “potere” o qualcosa di simile.
    magari madara punta ad riaquisirsene, oppure semplicemente è fuori uso e basta. (quindi punta a sasuke per riaverlo..)
    questo spiegerebbe perchè mai madara ha perso l’mse (itachi lo definisce l’ombra di se stesso, forse perchè come orocimaru ha dovuto cambiare corpo ? e un altro corpo con l’mse non esisteva?) visto che per forza di cose lo avrebbe dovuto avere 16 anni fa…

    #800355
    Giò83
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    ragazzi ho trovato questo nn so quanto realistico cmq può essere verosimile è in ingelse qualcuno può tradurlo in italiano? potrebbe essere oggetto di discussione…

    [SPOILER]Naruto 500: Revealed!

    Within in the mind of Naruto, Kushina speaks of her past.

    Kushina – I… I was the previous Nine-Tails Jinchuuriki. That’s where it all began.

    Naruto – You… you were the previous host before me, I thought that fox never had a host. But why you? Why did you have to be the host? What happened that night 16 years ago?(Naruto has a serious stare of his face)

    Kushina – It all started that day your father rescued me, the Konoha specialist found out why I was kidnapped. It was because of my of special chakra that can control the chakra and will of the Tailed Beasts being able to tame them for certain periods of time under certain circumstances.

    Flashback

    Konoha tech – This chakra… (gasp) It can’t be… Is she of any relation to the First Hokage? Her mind is unbendable, I can’t read it. It’s protected by a force of mental chakra chains. Who is this girl?

    ??????? – She is Kushina Uzumaki, Daughter of the fallen waterfall clan. Only recently were they found to be exterminated.

    Konoha tech #2 – Third! How did she survive?

    Hiruzen – Thank Konoha’s White Fang. Before his last mission he rescued her. He was forbidden to, but he decided against his superiors to do it.

    Konoha Tech #1 – But why was she pursued? What did those ninjas want with this child?

    Hiruzen – She can control the Tailed Beast. (Thunderbolt struck) And she holds within her, the Nine Tailed Fox. The moment she was brought here, the sealing pot that contained the beast was subdued due to her chakra so the elders decided to seal it within her.

    Back in the mind of Naruto

    Naruto – So you were able to weaken the fox? Go mom! Hahahahaha!

    Kushina – Thanks Naruto, but the story doesn’t end there. Within the village only few knew of my powers and what I had within me. Orochimaru, Granny Tsunade as we both call her, your godfather and sensei Jiraiya (image of youthful sanins), your father (performing a jutsu), the Hokage and the elders and those that sealed it within me. Only they in the village knew.

    Kushina – But there was one other, a masked man, whom you and your father know as Madara Uchiha. He was determined to release the beast under his control once more.

    Flashback
    (Night of Naruto’s birth.)

    Nurse – Yes Kushina you can do it, just one more push.

    Kushina – AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

    Baby Naruto – Waah Waah Waah!

    (Looking from beyond)

    Madara – heh, now that she’s in her weakened state, I can move into place.

    (Hospital room)

    Madara – You have something that belongs to me. (performs hand seals, he places his hands on her mind and stomach) RELEASE! MANGEKYO SHARINGAN!

    Kushina – AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

    Nine Tailed Fox – FREE AT LAST!!!!!!! NO! THE SCENT OF AN UCHIHA STIRS MY SOUL! YOU FOUL WRETCHED INSECT SHOW YOURSELF! YOU CAN’T HIDE! I SMELL YOU! (ROOOARR)

    (The village shakes, people scream, buildings break apart)

    Madara – Heh, pathetic fox. Do you remember these eyes? (Eternal Mangekyo Sharingan!)

    (Within the mind of the fox)

    Nine Tailed Fox – YOU WRETCHED FOOL, YOU CAN’T CONTROL ME FROM HERE! RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWR!

    Madara – We shall see about that. (He glares at the fox and a seal appears above his head). I have control of your will, that is the power of the Eternal Mangekyo Sharingan.

    Nine Tailed Fox – NO! THIS CAN’T BE!!!!!!!!! I’m sorry For what’s about to happen Kushina, I’m so sorry.

    Kushina – (within the mind of the fox her mind has melded together with the fox) It’s okay Fox, everything will be alright. At least my son is safe, such a beautiful human being just like his father.

    Back in the mind of Naruto

    Kushina – As the controlled Nine Tails ravished the village, your father The Fourth Hokage, was able to do recon on why the fox was released.

    Kushina – He was able to summon Gamabunta to help do as much protection he can to hold back the fox while he battles with the masked man Madara. Fortunately he was no match.

    Kushina – Your father knew he could not defeat Madara so he teleported atop Gama’s head and performed the forbidden jutsu of the Death God.

    (A flash back shows Minato preparing to summon the Death God, while Madara lingers by with an unsure eye. The Death God is summoned)

    (Flashback in the village)

    Minato – (Thinking) Kushina… I can feel that you are not here anymore but within the mind of the fox. Forgive me, I can’t save you…. (he shed tears as the Death God prepares) We will be together Kushina, but within the mind of our son Naruto.

    Minato – (Thinking) He will know the truth about all his in the future when the time is right. (Heh) Maybe then he will surpass me and finish the technique.

    (The Death God reached out through the body of Minato and grasped the Nine Tailed Fox and Minato performed the sealing jutsu upon his son and split the Chakra of the Nine Tailed Fox into two. The village is lying in waste, Madara has disappeared, Gamabunta brings forth the bodies of Minato and Kushina to the shrine Naruto was kept, Naruto cried violently and whiskers grew on his face as the seal on his stomach is revealed)

    Back in the mind of Naruto

    Kushina – That is the story Naruto. Your father is a brave individual. He did all he could to save the village, especially you, our final legacy. Now my son, carry on forth with the will of fire you possess.

    Kushina – Use it to bring peace and tranquility, but know this my son, the world needs balance. Peace alone cannot linger, it’s opposite has to be there too for balance in the world.

    Naruto – I will carry on your legacy, the will of fire, and bring balance to the world and become the Orange Hokage. Thank you mom, Madara will get what’s coming to him, I won’t swear vengeance, if we fight, it would be to the death.

    Kushina – Thank you my son, i love you so much, and your father love you too, treat your grandmother nicely too. (she begins to fade slowly)

    Naruto – I love you too mom, and my grandmother, who is that. Wait don’t go yet! (he cries)

    Kushina – You’ll have figure it out naruto, or she might tell you. But one last thing before I leave and you open your eyes. Talk to the fox. He knows more about the Sage of 6 Paths. He called you that earlier. I love you son. We’ll be watching over you. (fades away)

    Naruto – I love you too mom and dad. (looking at the cage the fox is sealed in) Alright fox, I won’t leave here till you tell me why you called me the Sage of 6 Paths.

    Nine Tailed Fox – Hmph! Wretched Brat! Fine. I have no where else to go.

    What will be the outcome for the akatsuki now that naruto knows the secret of madara. What will the Nine Tails tell him.[/SPOILER]

    Kushina non proviene dal villaggio della cascata, quindi è doppiamente fake (il primo motivo è la solita regola: prima di martedì è fake al 100%:asd:)

    #800357

    Kushina non proviene dal villaggio della cascata, quindi è doppiamente fake (il primo motivo è la solita regola: prima di martedì è fake al 100%:asd:)

    Già…era troppo interessante per essere vero:asd:

    #800367
    Francesco
    Partecipante

    altro spoiler dubbio totalmente diverso da quello che ho postato ieri…:D:D

    [SPOILER]aruto Chapter 500: “A Family’s Legacy”
    Naruto is looking at Kushina who has a sad look on her face all the sudden.

    Kushina:”It all began long before my time in Konaha at the end of the first ninja war.”
    Naruto: “What happened?”

    The first Hokage is shown in a meeting room with several different leaders all sitting around a large table with 2 subordinates for each leader standing behind them.
    Kushina: “As the first hokage was creating peace amongst the villages there was one group who was insistent on one demand and they would not rest until they got it. It is at that time where our troubles began.”
    Naruto: “Who were they?”

    Madara Uchiha is sitting at one end of the table with two uchiha members standing behind him.

    Kushina: “They were what you now call The Uchiha clan.”
    Naruto: “What did they want?”
    Kushina: “The kyubi.”
    Naruto: “….”
    Kushina: “Although their reason for wanting the kyubi was never disclosed they still faught hard to get the kyubi. Their leader, Madara Uchiha campaigned hard to receive the kyubi even at times causing strife amongst the other villages simply to force the senju to hand it over.”

    Madara is shown talking while two other village leaders are showing enraged looks on their faces
    yelling at each other while pointing fingers.

    Naruto: “What happened?”
    Kushina: “The Senju clan decided to do what they thought was in the best interest of everyone but would keep the kyubi from getting into the hands of the uchiha. They secretly sealed it inside one of our ancestors, a young man of a lesser clan with no real ties to any of the hidden villages.”

    A young man who bares a striking resemblence to Naruto is shown on his knee in a bowed tribute
    before Hashirama.

    Naruto: “Why did he do that? What made this young man so special?”
    Kushina: “Like your father, this young man was a man of great integrity who had shown his value in battle even at the cost of his only son who had been lost in the final battle of the war.”

    The young man is shown holding a smaller boy in his arms with tears in his eyes.

    Naruto: “….”
    Kushina: “Unfortunately Madara found out about this action and immediately tried to hunt down our entire family just so he could get his hands on the kyubi. He arranged for a Daimyo of a hidden village to be assassinated with one of us framed as the culprit.”

    A Daimyo is shown laying on the ground with a pool of blood around him and a knife in his back.

    Kushina: “From that day on our family became outlaws. Hunted vigorously by the Uchiha and bounty hunters all seeking more or a chance to regain the kyubi. Even after Madara had supposedly died we still were hunted down like animals simply because there was a long standing bounty on our family which no one bothered to remove.”

    A couple shots of different people being chased or chained in prison is shown.

    Naruto: “And that is why the Kumogokure ninjas captured you? They were after a bounty?”

    Kushina walking in shackles with the kumogokure ninjas is shown.

    Kushina: “Correct. They did not know I contained the kyubi or why they needed to capture me. They just wanted to make some money off a bounty. Your father on that day discovered that bounty and vowed to find out who was paying off the bounties to continue to hunt our family.”
    Naruto: “And thats when you fell in love with him?”
    Kushina: “Yes. Your father worked hard and diligently from that day on to protect my family despite efforts by some others to hunt us down. Eventually he finally was able to find out who it was that was enforcing the bounty?”
    Naruto: “Madara…”

    Madara is shown with his mask on pointing a finger at Minato while he spreads his arms out blocking
    a terrified Kushina who is cowering in fear behind him.

    Kushina: “You know him?”
    Naruto: “We have met.”
    Kushina: “Madara threatened your father and the village with destruction if he could not get the the kyubi from me but your father refused vowing he would fight Madara to the end to keep me from being handed over to Madara. Not long after you were born is when Madara finally struck.”
    Naruto: “What happened?”
    Kushina: “Madara arrived on the night of your birth with an army of mercenaries and bounty hunters who had been searching for our family. It took them little time to capture your father, myself, and the rest of my family.”

    Madara is shown with several dozen mercenaries surrounding Minato who is trying to protect a fallen
    Kushina.

    Kushina: “As Madara aimed to bring about a killing blow to your father I snapped. I lost control of
    myself and entirely broke the seal of the kyubi.”

    Madara is shown looking on in horror as Kushina is enveloped in a full size chakra formation of the kyubi.

    Naruto: “You broke the seal?”
    Kushina: “I do not remember what happened after that but when I woke up my family had vanished except for my grandfather who in his last act brought me back to life at the cost of his own. Your father as I later learned had thought I was dead so he went off to go stop the kyubi which was attacking the village.”

    Kushina is shown crying over the body of her grandfather with Konoha burning in the background in the distance.

    Naruto: “Did you ever find out what happened to the rest of our family?”
    Kushina: “Sadly no. Shortly after I found your father working hard to seal away the kyubi. In that instant I gave what ever chakra I had left that kept me alive to him to help him forge the seal. I died on that night with my last moments seeing your father fight bravely against the kyubi as I slowly faded away.”

    Kushina starts to slowly vanish away as her body becomes ghost like.

    Naruto: “What is happening?”
    Kushina: “My time here is done. My work is finished. Farewell my son. Make your father and I proud.”

    Naruto has tears in his eyes as he hugs Kushina as she slowly vanishes.

    Naruto: “I promise mom! I will. I promise.”
    Kushina: “Good bye my son…..”

    Naruto wakes up and stands up as Killer bee also stands up.

    KillerBee: “Well done Naruto. You have control of the kyubi.”
    Naruto: “I guess its time now then.”
    Yamoto: “What time?”
    Naruto: “Its time we left the island and brought an end to this war.”

    Naruto has a serious look on his face while Yamoto looks completely shocked at Naruto’s words.[/SPOILER]

    #800368
    MaxPayne
    Membro

    scusate il mio piccolo OT…ma fino all’uscita del capitolo non leggero’ piu’ questo thread e nemmeno gli spoiler…il capitolo 500 me lo voglio gustare in pieno…

    ciao ciao!!!:D:icon_smile::icon_wink::cool:

    #800389
    gio27
    Partecipante

    altro spoiler dubbio totalmente diverso da quello che ho postato ieri…:D:D

    [SPOILER]aruto Chapter 500: “A Family’s Legacy”
    Naruto is looking at Kushina who has a sad look on her face all the sudden.

    Kushina:”It all began long before my time in Konaha at the end of the first ninja war.”
    Naruto: “What happened?”

    The first Hokage is shown in a meeting room with several different leaders all sitting around a large table with 2 subordinates for each leader standing behind them.
    Kushina: “As the first hokage was creating peace amongst the villages there was one group who was insistent on one demand and they would not rest until they got it. It is at that time where our troubles began.”
    Naruto: “Who were they?”

    Madara Uchiha is sitting at one end of the table with two uchiha members standing behind him.

    Kushina: “They were what you now call The Uchiha clan.”
    Naruto: “What did they want?”
    Kushina: “The kyubi.”
    Naruto: “….”
    Kushina: “Although their reason for wanting the kyubi was never disclosed they still faught hard to get the kyubi. Their leader, Madara Uchiha campaigned hard to receive the kyubi even at times causing strife amongst the other villages simply to force the senju to hand it over.”

    Madara is shown talking while two other village leaders are showing enraged looks on their faces
    yelling at each other while pointing fingers.

    Naruto: “What happened?”
    Kushina: “The Senju clan decided to do what they thought was in the best interest of everyone but would keep the kyubi from getting into the hands of the uchiha. They secretly sealed it inside one of our ancestors, a young man of a lesser clan with no real ties to any of the hidden villages.”

    A young man who bares a striking resemblence to Naruto is shown on his knee in a bowed tribute
    before Hashirama.

    Naruto: “Why did he do that? What made this young man so special?”
    Kushina: “Like your father, this young man was a man of great integrity who had shown his value in battle even at the cost of his only son who had been lost in the final battle of the war.”

    The young man is shown holding a smaller boy in his arms with tears in his eyes.

    Naruto: “….”
    Kushina: “Unfortunately Madara found out about this action and immediately tried to hunt down our entire family just so he could get his hands on the kyubi. He arranged for a Daimyo of a hidden village to be assassinated with one of us framed as the culprit.”

    A Daimyo is shown laying on the ground with a pool of blood around him and a knife in his back.

    Kushina: “From that day on our family became outlaws. Hunted vigorously by the Uchiha and bounty hunters all seeking more or a chance to regain the kyubi. Even after Madara had supposedly died we still were hunted down like animals simply because there was a long standing bounty on our family which no one bothered to remove.”

    A couple shots of different people being chased or chained in prison is shown.

    Naruto: “And that is why the Kumogokure ninjas captured you? They were after a bounty?”

    Kushina walking in shackles with the kumogokure ninjas is shown.

    Kushina: “Correct. They did not know I contained the kyubi or why they needed to capture me. They just wanted to make some money off a bounty. Your father on that day discovered that bounty and vowed to find out who was paying off the bounties to continue to hunt our family.”
    Naruto: “And thats when you fell in love with him?”
    Kushina: “Yes. Your father worked hard and diligently from that day on to protect my family despite efforts by some others to hunt us down. Eventually he finally was able to find out who it was that was enforcing the bounty?”
    Naruto: “Madara…”

    Madara is shown with his mask on pointing a finger at Minato while he spreads his arms out blocking
    a terrified Kushina who is cowering in fear behind him.

    Kushina: “You know him?”
    Naruto: “We have met.”
    Kushina: “Madara threatened your father and the village with destruction if he could not get the the kyubi from me but your father refused vowing he would fight Madara to the end to keep me from being handed over to Madara. Not long after you were born is when Madara finally struck.”
    Naruto: “What happened?”
    Kushina: “Madara arrived on the night of your birth with an army of mercenaries and bounty hunters who had been searching for our family. It took them little time to capture your father, myself, and the rest of my family.”

    Madara is shown with several dozen mercenaries surrounding Minato who is trying to protect a fallen
    Kushina.

    Kushina: “As Madara aimed to bring about a killing blow to your father I snapped. I lost control of
    myself and entirely broke the seal of the kyubi.”

    Madara is shown looking on in horror as Kushina is enveloped in a full size chakra formation of the kyubi.

    Naruto: “You broke the seal?”
    Kushina: “I do not remember what happened after that but when I woke up my family had vanished except for my grandfather who in his last act brought me back to life at the cost of his own. Your father as I later learned had thought I was dead so he went off to go stop the kyubi which was attacking the village.”

    Kushina is shown crying over the body of her grandfather with Konoha burning in the background in the distance.

    Naruto: “Did you ever find out what happened to the rest of our family?”
    Kushina: “Sadly no. Shortly after I found your father working hard to seal away the kyubi. In that instant I gave what ever chakra I had left that kept me alive to him to help him forge the seal. I died on that night with my last moments seeing your father fight bravely against the kyubi as I slowly faded away.”

    Kushina starts to slowly vanish away as her body becomes ghost like.

    Naruto: “What is happening?”
    Kushina: “My time here is done. My work is finished. Farewell my son. Make your father and I proud.”

    Naruto has tears in his eyes as he hugs Kushina as she slowly vanishes.

    Naruto: “I promise mom! I will. I promise.”
    Kushina: “Good bye my son…..”

    Naruto wakes up and stands up as Killer bee also stands up.

    KillerBee: “Well done Naruto. You have control of the kyubi.”
    Naruto: “I guess its time now then.”
    Yamoto: “What time?”
    Naruto: “Its time we left the island and brought an end to this war.”

    Naruto has a serious look on his face while Yamoto looks completely shocked at Naruto’s words.[/SPOILER]

    questi che stai postando non sono spoiler ma prediction quindi sono tutti fake. praticamente sono dei raccontini inventati da utenti come noi che cercano di predire cosa potrà accadere nel cap 500:icon_wink:

    #800447
    Redazione
    Amministratore del forum

    Francesco,puoi anche piantarla di postare queste inutili prediction in questo thread:icon_rolleyes:

    #800464
    Jacopo
    Membro

    Francesco,puoi anche piantarla di postare queste inutili prediction in questo thread:icon_rolleyes:

    mi speghi a che serve quella faccina dopo quella frase?

    #800476
    Fonzie
    Partecipante

    come mai niente capitoli di naruto questa settimana..? mi han detto che zio khiscimoto (o come diavolo si scrive) è in vacanza XD giusto?
    cmq se kuschina era la jinkurichi come hanno estratto il demone senza ucciderla per poi attaccare il villaggio?

    #800487
    Francesco
    Partecipante

    Francesco,puoi anche piantarla di postare queste inutili prediction in questo thread:icon_rolleyes:

    visto che li ho trovati in giro pensavo potessero essere utili..

    #800488
    Giò83
    Partecipante

    scusate il mio piccolo OT…ma fino all’uscita del capitolo non leggero’ piu’ questo thread e nemmeno gli spoiler…il capitolo 500 me lo voglio gustare in pieno…

    ciao ciao!!!:D:icon_smile::icon_wink::cool:

    Concordo al 100%!:asd: Comunque secondo me nella storia di Kushina si parlerà anche della morte di Madara…:sisi:

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