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  • in risposta a: One Piece 803: Ipotesi e Discussione Spoiler #1498405
    chaplin
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    ichigo2

    Ecco un altro elemento delle “pure casualità” che si aggiungono a OP…figa proprio Burges per caso finisce nel luogo che dovrebbe essere più segreto al mondo? Bah

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    Bunta-sama

    La casualità non sta tanto nel fatto che sia finito lì, bensì sul fatto che, tra le tante navi in fuga da Dressrossa, si sia nascosto proprio su una di quelle dei

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    C’è però da tener conto di due elementi.
    Le navi dei rivoluzionari sono tra le prime ad aver lasciato l’isola di DressRosa. Tutte le altre (o quasi tutte) credo siano state requisite per il piano di fuga di Luffy e compagni.
    Tra i compiti di Burgess pare ci sia anche quello di trovare armi per la flotta di BN (lo si può dedurre da cosa riferisce). Sono i rivoluzionari ad essere entrati in possesso delle armi di DF. Burgess potrebbe aver seguito le armi e quindi scelto non a caso di nascondersi in quella nave.
    Per non parlare del fatto che potrebbe volersi vendicare di Sabo. :sisi:

    in risposta a: One Piece 803: Ipotesi e Discussione Spoiler #1498322
    chaplin
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    Bunta-sama

    Il metallo raro non può riferirsi alla vecchia mini avventura con Wapol?
    Se non ricordo male, era diventato re di una terra ricca di un particolare minerale. Nello scorso capitolo si è riaccennato al riverie e, sempre se la memoria non m’inganna, anni fa si era palesata l’ipotesi di rivedere il vecchio mangione proprio in quell’occasione.

    Il Wapol steel? Nel capitolo pare non venga usato questo nome ma non si può escludere ci si riferisca comunque a quel metallo o un nuovo metallo prodotto da Wapol.
    Un’altra possibile alternativa è che sia l’ennesima invenzione di Vegapunk. Lo scienziato è un altro personaggio che prima o poi Oda dovrà farci incontrare.
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    Niente capitolo di OP la prossima settimana :sisi:

    in risposta a: One Piece 803: Ipotesi e Discussione Spoiler #1498318
    chaplin
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    Letto il capitolo. Oda ci offre nuove informazioni.
    BN, dopo essere stato la causa della morte di Ace, eliminerà anche Sabo?? Oppure dovrà essere Sabo a vendicare Ace… Luffy ha già il suo bel da fare. Non ho ben compreso la questione del metallo raro. Chissà se sarà un elemento importante o solo un comoda giustificazione di futuri incontri/scontri.
    Su Buggy c’è poco da dire. Si perpetua il rapporto di amore ed odio tra lui e Luffy.
    L’avventura sull’isola di Zou ha inizio. Chissà cosa o chi piomberà dal cielo sui nostri scalatori.
    Una mega cacca di elefante? C’è da sperare che non abbia la “sciolta”. :sisi:

    in risposta a: One Piece 803: Ipotesi e Discussione Spoiler #1498317
    chaplin
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    Credit: Aohige
    Source: APF
    Stato:Confermato
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    Chapter 803 Climbing the Elephant
    Cover is Franky racing with a shark.
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    Barto and co spots Sunny, and while Barto is excited with joy to see the ship, Luffy calls out for the crew (+ that Gas-dude whose name escapes Luffy’s memory)
    The Strawhats find no one aboard, so they decide to go on the island. (que Usopp pretending to not go lol)
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    Barto tells Luffy he and his crew would love to tag along, but don’t want to get in the way of the adventure of the gods.
    So they tearfully say good bye, and vows to be useful as an underling. He asks for the 4 autographs of the missing crew when they see again, but the Straw Hats and the Samurai pay no attention to him.
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    Kan draws a terribly drawn rising dragon, (but Robin blushes and secretly thinks it’s cute) which the crew will use to get on Zou.
    Luffy turns around and says thanks to “Romeo”. Barto is in tears of joy that Luffy remembers his name.
    The Straw hats and the samurais hop on the back of the dragon, which starts climbing up Zou’s leg.
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    Meanwhile, Vertigo, Revolutionary HQ… Dragon is getting reports of successful uprisings throughout the world.
    Donquixote family’s fall has affected the world powers greatly, as so many nations were secretly smuggling arms from them.
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    Dragon tells the men not to let their guard down for these victories.
    Cypher Pol has been strengthening its powers in the recent years, we must be cautious.
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    Koala reports to Dragon that special minerals were found in the weapons they confiscated in Dressrosa.
    Sake-Iron (or Booze-Iron) were found in the weapons, and where you can mine these minerals are limited.
    They may be able to pin-point who is behind the crafting of these weapons.
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    Dragon compliments Koala on her work in Dressrosa, and she blushes, humbly crediting Luffy and Sabo for the work.
    Dragon asks how was Robin doing, and she tells him how well she was doing, but curious to why Dragon doesn’t ask about his son.
    It seems he’s heard earful about Luffy already from Sabo.
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    Dragon orders Koala to gather the leaders of Revolutionary Army from all over the world.
    Koala is surprised, as they seem to be.. quite a unique individuals.
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    Meanwhile, on Blackbeard’s ships…
    Shiryu – 2nd Ship Captain
    Lafitte – 5th Ship Captain
    Lafitte and Shiryu are getting reports from Burgess. Shiryu laughs at Burgess still being alive.
    Burgess tells them he was knocked out for the most part, and that’s why his call was delayed.
    Lafitte asks him where he is, and Burgess says it’s a white… all white island. He hid as a stowaway in a ship.
    He tells them to give his findings to Teach.. if he invades this island, he’ll be able to get tons of weapons.
    Lafitte corrects him to address Teach as Fleet Admiral (Not the Marine Fleet Admiral rank, but the same as Orlumbus, simply an admiral of a fleet)
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    Burgess also requests to bring Doc Q, as he is near dying without medical assistance.
    Shiryu asks him where he is, but Burgess doesn’t know the name of the island. He tells them to use his vivre card to find where he is.
    What he does know is… Both Dragon and Sabo are here. He has found the HQ of the Revolutionaries!!
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    BB Pirates vs Revolutionaries incoming!
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    Meanwhile on Carai Bari island, “Buggy town”
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    Buggy’s mercenary business is booming, with clients constantly calling.
    Doflamingo’s fall has created a vacant hold in the market, boosting demand for Buggy’s business Pirate Dispatch Company “Buggy’s Delivery”
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    Buggy laughs, telling his followers to go forth and plunder on the warzones, as their activities are legal due to Buggy’s status as a Warlord.
    Mohji reports to Buggy that Hajrudin and 4 giants have quit the company. Buggy is enraged, as they’re the most profitable mercinaries in his company.
    He demands to know why, and Mohji tells him it’s better not to know why, but Buggy orders him to say.
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    Luffy & co are still climbing Zou’s leg.
    The dragon seems exhausted, while the Straw Hats chat on. (Robin still blushing thinking how cute the ugly dragon is)
    Luffy asks the two samurai why they wanted to go to Zou.
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    Kin tells Luffy that they owe their life to them, and he should tell them everything.. but he wants to have a peace of mind first.
    Kan follow it up saying Zou is where they were headed ever since they left the Wano country.
    They need to know if Momo is safe, as well as their comrade Raizou the ninja.
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    What! Ninja!? He’s a NINJA!?
    All the boys turn around, with sparkles of excitement (EVEN ZORO AND LAW!)
    Robin doesn’t get it.
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    Robin spots something falling toward them from top of Zou, Luffy turns around with an astonished face “What the heck is that!?”
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    End of chapter

    in risposta a: One Piece 802: Ipotesi e Discussione Spoiler #1498133
    chaplin
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    Ha già spiegato tutto il rospaccio tranne il fatto che Law aveva consegnato a Nami (cap 701) un pezzo della vivre card che punta alla sua ciurma.
    Quella vivre card ha svolto il ruolo di logpose per entrambi gli equipaggi :sisi:

    in risposta a: One Piece 802: Ipotesi e Discussione Spoiler #1498116
    chaplin
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    Bunta-sama

    Sta di fatto che, ad oggi, la madre di Laura ancora non s’è vista. Se la somiglianza indica effettivamente la parentela dovremmo scoprirlo a breve. Nami dovrebbe avere con sé ancora la vivre card e, da quanto detto nel capitolo odierno, Weeble e “Mrs. BB” dovrebbero far rotta proprio verso Zou.

    La teoria “Laura figlia di Bigmom” aveva dalla sua anche il fatto di spiegare cosa Oda avesse in serbo per salvare Luffy dopo averlo messo in rotta collisione con tutti gli imperatori allo stesso tempo.
    Tuttavia, non escludo tu possa avere ragione.
    Anche sapere come Sanji & C sono sfuggiti a BM potrà darci informazioni interessanti :sisi:

    in risposta a: One Piece 802: Ipotesi e Discussione Spoiler #1498097
    chaplin
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    Bunta-sama

    Per quanto riguarda la “presunta madre” è solo un’impressione mia la somiglianza con Laura di Thriller Bark?

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    Hanno un caschetto molto simile. Ad avere le trecce invece è weeble.
    Le belle donne disegnate da Oda sono spesso molto simili…
    Può anche essere che abbia lo stesso problemuccio con le cozze. La somiglianza non è detto che implichi familiarità. :sisi:

    in risposta a: One Piece 802: Ipotesi e Discussione Spoiler #1498089
    chaplin
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    Bunta-sama

    Bufala colossale quella del figlio di BB, a mio avviso.
    Quelle cicatrici mi fanno quasi pensare a un rimodellamento ad hoc dell’aspetto di Weeble. La madre, invece, mi ricorda la piratessa di TB.
    Che banda di sgangherati i pirati di Barto :doh:

    L’ho pensato anch’io. Mi spingerei a dire che trattasi di un lavoretto alla Hogback. :sisi:
    La chioma l’ha presa da Shiki. :sisi:
    Luffy gli cambierà nuovamente i connotati e poi ne diventerà il nuovo papino. :sisi:

    in risposta a: One Piece 802: Ipotesi e Discussione Spoiler #1498081
    chaplin
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    Letto il capitolo. Nessuna novità su Sanji… ma inizia ufficialmente la saga di Zou.
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    p.s.: ma povero BB.

    in risposta a: One Piece 802: Ipotesi e Discussione Spoiler #1498079
    chaplin
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    Credit: Aohige
    Source: APF
    Stato:Confermato
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    Chapter 802 “Zou”
    Color spread of Straw Hats in kimono eating dangos
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    Huge hails each the size of a human head falls from the sky, piercing holes in Barto’s ship.
    Luffy tries to help out, while Franky demands directions from navigator to steer the ship
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    Barto tells him they are originally gangs on land, and have no navigator lol.
    Gambia is calling his grandma up with the denden mushi, asking for advise.
    It seems Barto’s crew always calls up grandma when they need help when they’re in trouble.
    But the granny keeps giving housewife tips instead of anything helpful for the situation.
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    Straw Hats have to save the day, and Law is in disbelief.
    The ship sails through the giant hails, attacks from chameleon sea king, straight falls (in middle of the ocean!?) thunderstorms….
    .
    Meanwhile at Marine HQ, Kizaru receives a report.
    A.O Pirates under the banner of Whitebeard has been annihilated by Shichibukai Edward Weeble
    This is now the 16th captain under Whitebeard to fall. It seems Weeble always gets into quarrel with the captains and blows them up along with a city.
    There are now 600 casualties (both dead and injured) and counting.
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    It seems Weeble leaves such a path of destruction and harm to civilians, the marines are wondering if they should allow him to continue with such aggression. His “claim” to be son of Edward Newgate is a strong title, but many doubt its credibility.
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    Kizaru tells the marine he’s not really too concerned with the truth. Regardless of his heritage, there’s one thing of certain of his value… he is a very powerful pirate!
    Kizaru continues that he’s just like Whitebeard when he was young. Only in his strength though.
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    Shichibukai
    Self-claimed Whitebeard Jr
    Edward Weeble (former bounty 480 million)
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    Weeble seems to have the mind of an immature child.
    “Dey always say da same thing! Dat ritebeard’s sons are the ritebeard pirates! Mommy! Mommy! I’M the song of ritebeard rite? I’m so rite!(white)”
    (I’m just localizing… he says “Shiroshige” instead of Shirohige because he talks like a little child and can’t pronounce words right)
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    Miss Bakkin, self-claimed lover of Whitebeard replies to her son that Whitebeard pirates are nothing but pretend-family. The only true child of Whitebeard is you, my son.
    She claims to be loved by Whitebeard, and shows her son Edward Newgate’s picture. You couldn’t possibly be anything other than his son, you look just like him!
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    She tells her son they need to find Marco and rest of whitebeard’s men and rob them of Whitebeard’s fortune. You are the true heir to his wealth!
    But Weeble seems to be more interested in taking revenge on Blackbeard for killing who he believes to be his father. But Bakkin tells him there’s no profit in revenge, money is what they should go after.
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    She reads a newspaper and learns about fall of Doflamingo, defeated by Garp’s grandson.
    She remembers a rumor that Marco and others protected him during the war.
    Weeble says then he might know about Marco, should we go beat him up?
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    One week later…
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    Barto’s ship is lost in the mist, and the crew sick from seasick.
    Zoro can’t believe these guys are pirates lol.
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    They see what appears to be a mountain or a giant monster n the mist, and it seems to be moving slightly.
    Luffy immediately goes Let’s go see this moving mountain! but Usopp stops him saying right now we need to figure out how to get out of this maze of mist, before hitting a boulder
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    Law tells “God” to hold it, as the vivre card of his crewmates point towards the mountain.
    Usopp seems happy to be called “God” and boasts his 200million bounty while Franky glares at him, but instantly shuts up when Law mentions the Admirals have eyes on him now.
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    Law tells them this island is covered in deep mist and strong current bars entering it.
    As they get closer, Luffy and others are astonished. How can this be an island!? this…. this is literally a gigantic elephant! (zou)!
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    Law explains Zou, like it’s name, is an island on the back of a massive elephant.
    It constantly moves and is never in one spot. Because it’s not an actual land, Log Pose cannot guide you to it. He says it’s the first time for him here.
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    The Elephant is slowly moving away, so Sanji and others must have arrived much earlier.
    The samurais mention they heard race of people who despises humans live on Zou.
    Law acknowledges, and tells them the Mink tribes live on the island for the past 1000 years.
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    Which means… this elephant is at least a thousand years old!
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    End of chapter
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    in risposta a: One Piece 801: Ipotesi e Discussione Spoiler #1498038
    chaplin
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    kwang

    c’è anche il terzo ammiraglio della marina nella pagina con tutti “i mostri del mare”, sono curioso di vederlo!
    gran capitolo!

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    Si mormora (pare per via della capigliatura) che possa essere una donna. L’idea mi stuzzica se associata al discorso fatto in precedenza su chi potrebbe amare/odiare Sanji. Che Sanji abbia incontrato l’ammiraglio?
    Stesso discorso varrebbe se fosse un okama. :sisi:

    in risposta a: One Piece 801: Ipotesi e Discussione Spoiler #1497840
    chaplin
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    SteBO

    Teorie su Sanji apparte, gli ex CP9 non avevano abbandonato il governo ? Dalle miniavventure ricordavo che stessero dando la caccia a spandam

    Direi che è plausibile dedurre che l’hanno trovato e l’hanno costretto a raccontare la verità al governo su quanto successo a EL. Una volta riabilitati saranno stati anche promossi (malgrado quanto hanno combinato durante la caccia) :sisi:

    in risposta a: One Piece 801: Ipotesi e Discussione Spoiler #1497792
    chaplin
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    ichigo2

    Oppure sanji è figlio di draghi celesti

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    Se avessero scoperto una cosa del genere non credi avrebbero dovuto cancellare la taglia?
    Comunque spero non lo sia… ma non mi dispiacerebbe l’idea che si sia potuto spacciare per tale (vedi mr Prince).
    Spero che la cosa sia in qualche modo legata al momento in cui sono state scattate le nuove foto di Nami e Sanji :sisi:

    Rileggendo il capitolo mi sono imbattuto in un nuovo mistero…
    Nel vaticinio di DF… chi è il quarto “mostro” dei rivoluzionari? Riconosco Dragon, Iva e Sabo. Chi è il quarto? Koala con la barba? Si sa chi è? :mah:
    Se trattasi di un nuovo personaggio, potrebbe essere l’uomo corvo. :sisi:

    in risposta a: One Piece 801: Ipotesi e Discussione Spoiler #1497774
    chaplin
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    Ho letto il ricco capitolo. Tante informazioni e nuovi misteri.
    Chi è il membro della CP0 nascosto dalla maschera? Ucci ucci sento odor di Lucci…
    Sbaglio o il suo sottoposto è Spandam? L’hanno degradato :sisi:
    Chi tenterà di liberare DF? Jack lo abbiamo già sentito nominare nella saga di PH.
    A giudicare dalla vela (e dalla polena) potrebbe anche essere un membro della ciurma di Kaido. Avrebbe senso.

    Che avrà combinato Sanji? Qualcuno ai piani alti deve essersi innamorato di lui…
    o deve odiarlo tanto da desiderare di poterlo torturare personalmente.
    O entrambe le cose. :mah:

    in risposta a: One Piece 801: Ipotesi e Discussione Spoiler #1497773
    chaplin
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    Credit: Aohige
    Source: APF
    Stato:Confermato

    Declaration of Opening
    (opening of a show, event, etc)
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    Cover is Cavendish and his horse giving water to his roses
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    A “mysterious man in mask with curly hair and a pigeon on his shoulder” (gee, who could it be *cough* Rob *cough*) who belongs to CP0 is receiving report that all the weapons, paperwork, any trace of smuggling were gone from Dressrosa. They suspect the Revolutionaries have taken them.
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    Dressrosa are celebrating, with Violetta dancing flamenco in front of the citizens, as King Riku makes a proposal to his people.
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    He introduces Tontatta elder and Princess Mansherry as the crowd cheers on.
    Meanwhile Leo hands over blueprints of something to the crafters of Dressrosa.
    They start working on making statues for Lucy, Usopp, and Kyros before they even rebuild their homes. This is apparently higher priority.
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    We see Rebecca shopping in the streets along with princess Mansherry on her shoulder, as the narrator says anyone visiting this country will see little dwarves co-existing with humans in peace. (it’s a parallel to the opening of Dressrosa, where it was taking about humans and toys co-existing)
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    Dressrosa, country of love, passion, and fairies.
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    Meanwhile on marine ship, Fujitora tells Sengoku that once he’s done escorting them he’ll sail out for a trip. He’s not allowed to set foot in any marine base until he brings the head of Law and Straw Hat.
    Sengoku tells him all he needs to do to save Sakazuki’s face is one word of apology, but Fujitora declines. He has a face to save for himself.
    Sengoku sighs in stubbornness of the two.
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    Meanwhile Tsuru has a chat with Doflamingo, who is locked up in the cell.
    Dofla tells her Fujitora was an idiot, if only he had worked with him, he wouldn’t be in his sticky position. He tells her they will regret taking him down.
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    Tsuru tells him there’s no “what ifs” in this world. This result is the only reality.
    Stop being so pathetic, you LOST.
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    He laughs, and she asks him what will happen to the pirate world now.
    Dofla tells her what do you think monsters who lost their food will do?
    Is there anyone in this sea right now who stands at the top?
    Who will be the king of the sea? One of the Four Emperors? Or one of the seven warlords?
    Or perhaps the brats of the “Worst Generation”?
    (awesome picture of the super novas, shichibukai, and yonkou btw!)
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    Or perhaps the Army of justice.. the marines are the rulers of the sea?
    Then again we also have powerful folks in the Revolutionaries…
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    Where and when will the clan of “D” show up?
    Who will be on who’s side? Who will betray who?
    Why don’t you go tell the Celestial dragons in Marie Jois, that they’ll be dragged down from their place?
    25 years after Gold Roger completed the Grand Line.
    His rival Whitebeard never took the throne, and settled for seat before it.
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    But how about now? There are more pirates than ever, yet the throne is empty!
    You understand what I’m saying… the biggest conflict for the throne in history of pirates will begin now!
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    (yeah, certain theme song just started playing in my head. dada-dadadada-dadadada- thanks a lot Doflittlefinger.)
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    Doflamingo laughs, and asks Tsuru to provide him newspapers every day if you’re taking me to Impel Down. As long as I have that, I won’t be bored.
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    Meanwhile, someone stares at the 4 marine ships carrying Doflamingo.
    Only 4 ships, but the men on the ship are way too powerful for mere escort. (Fujitora, Tsuru, Sengoku, etc)
    The man reports to captain Jack that taking back Lord Doflamingo isn’t possible.
    But Jack isn’t satisfied. He tells him who the hell do you think I am? Of course we’re attacking!!
    .
    Meanwhile Luffy on Barto’s ship
    flagship “Going Luffy Sempai” with Luffy as the figurehead and modeled after Going Merry.
    Their compass uses Luffy’s vivre card to point towards the real Luffy lol
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    All the members of Barto Club seems to be huge fan of the Straw Hats, and cries in joy of their arrival.
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    short flashback: Sabo had made Luffy’s Vivre card.
    Bellamy tells Luffy that he won’t become his underling, but he’ll take a piece of it just in case. The seven captains who pledged oath to Luffy have all taken a piece of Luffy’s vivre card before leaving as well, promising to see their lord again.
    .
    Luffy says it was fun, and he has come to like them all.
    Law tells Barto to send the ship to Zou
    Usopp wonders if Sanji got to the island, and Franky is worried about Big Mam’s ship.
    Zoro is reading the newspaper, and notices their bounties have gone up.
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    Barto says he has all the new wanted posters in his room, and he’ll show it to the straw hats. He also tells Law that his bounty has increased to 500 million, but Law seems uninterested.
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    In Barto’s room, the new wanted posters were framed on the wall.
    Luffy 500m
    Zoro 320m
    Usopp 200m
    Robin 130m
    Franky 94m

    Franky complains about Usopp being higher, leaving only him under 100m.
    Usopp tells him to look more carefully, Nami and others are there too

    Sanji 177m
    Nami 66m
    Brook 83m
    Chopper 100 berry

    Barto explains that other than few who were notably dangerous, most of them got a flat 50m increase. But he notes that Sanji’s wanted poster is strangely different from others…
    Not only does the increase amount different pattern from others, it doesn’t say “Dead or Alive”.. instead it says “Only Alive”!

    End of chapter

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